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I would love to help out but this is one of those jobs I left to someone who knows exactly what he is doing. I did purchase the carpet and he told me that he would take care of the glue.

Armstrong makes an adhesive that is compatible with all of the older glues. I thinks its S500 or S750. Please verify before purchase. Some new adhesives can react with older ones softening them up and then neither ones sets up hard, leaving you with a major headache.

650Guy wrote:Qr Bbpost Oh man! I did not even THINK of the glue part! So I’m assuming it’s glued, but how do I determine what type it is?

I would recommend contacting Carver and asking what they use, then try and find out its formulation. That'll give you the information you need to know when buying the new stuff.

You'll need a glue that will adhere both to carpet and fiberglass if that is your substrate. Also get a glue that will hold up for exterior use as it has benefits such as the ability to put up with humidity, cold, water, etc. And look for a glue that is low VOC so that off-gassing isn't harmful to your health in such tight quarters.

Thanks Guys. I will call carver and see what they say then report back so the whole group benifits! Man, the glue was never a concern of mine. So glad this group is around!

650Guy - here is an email address for a customer service guy (Jeff) at Carver. Don't tell him where you got it. Provide him with your hull # and he can look up the actual construction log for your specific vessel. Pulling that carpet is a PITA. Have you considered just cutting the carpet to shape and laying over current carpet? Any upholstery shop can bind the edges with your choice of binding. I have done this in a couple boats. It does not move or slip around if your cut is accurate. Easy to do with a good carpet knife. Inform the upholstery shop of how close you cut the edge so they can adjust for fit. Just snap down at front/back edge. Easy to remove for cleaning or access to hatches.
jbroder@marquisyachts.com

Thank you so much for the contact!! That is HUGELY helpful! I will admit, pulling the carpet up is probably my biggest concern. Well, that, and covering the edges of the hatches so they do not pull up. Having never done that, I worry that is a risk.

I had not considered overlaying the carpet. It raises an interesting idea. I’m just dumb enough to start tearing out the carpet, get 1/2 way into it, regretting it... but being committed now! LOL!

Sometimes using a heat gun to soften the glue makes removing the carpet a lot easier. Get started by lifting one end then start heating under the carpet and continue lifting. It's easier if you cut out small sections as you lift them. Don't know how much carpet we're talking about in your application but in my case, I'd be removing the existing carpet as I wouldn't want the additional weight.

Thanks Viper! The heat gun idea is brilliant! I have emailed Jeff at carver to see what he has to say. My hope is to attach it the weekend after this. Get my 2 sons out there and we start heating and pulling! I mean that is what we had kids for, right... slave labor! LOL!

Here was carvers response

“Jeff has transferred to another department, so his emails come to me. For the glue, we typically used a basic carpet glue that would have been troweled out on the floor to attach the carpet. Most carpet stores carry it for glue in carpet installations. We also would occasionally use silicone to glue in the carpet. The installer would have used a caulk gun to lay a few lines of silicone on the floor and then lay the carpet on it. It was never recorded as to which method was used on each individual boat, so I could not say how this one was done specifically. You will also find that on the ends of the stairs, around the hatch openings and on the hatches themselves, there would have been staples also used to attach the carpet.“

Hi Guy - I just found out about Jeff transfer also. It looks like whoever took his place is also very reliable. Yippee! er