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Re: 454XLi exhaust manifold replacement 96 Carver 400
Posted: July 11th, 2019, 12:17 pm
by km1125
You sure that's rounded off?? Looks like a 12 point bolt to me
Re: 454XLi exhaust manifold replacement 96 Carver 400
Posted: July 11th, 2019, 12:31 pm
by km1125
With only one left you can also take the plugs out and stuff each hole with a rubber stopper or wadd of paper towel so nothing drops in. You can then break the manifold loose on the far side from the bolt and have someone rotate it around the stuck bolt while you put tension on the stuck bolt to break it free. Just moving the manifold up and down about 1/2 inch is all you need to help things along.
Re: 454XLi exhaust manifold replacement 96 Carver 400
Posted: July 11th, 2019, 1:47 pm
by hausherrs
Thats an idea... I thought of trying to rotate the manifold, just a little. Its pulling away at cyl #1. There is a 1/8 gap, maybe 1/16, you can put a flat tip screwdriver in between. Again this is cyl #5.
It is a 12pt but the all the "points" are rusted off or rounded. I also thinking about tapping a smaller socket on there and trying to get an impact on there. Or get an Irwin bolt extractor and put it on the impact.
Anyway, i have to get an arsenal together, plan A, B, C, and D......
A) Wiggle manifold
B) Tap on socket and try the impact, If not, try breaker bar
C) Irwin bot extractor
D) Air hammer the bolt out. If that dosent work just cut the head off..
Re: 454XLi exhaust manifold replacement 96 Carver 400
Posted: July 11th, 2019, 2:32 pm
by bud37
That may be an ARP exhaust bolt...they are hardened........So I am not there, but just be careful prying on that bolt with the manifold........the head can be cracked around the bolt hole area easier than you think.....bolt extractor first.......again good luck and take your time.
Re: 454XLi exhaust manifold replacement 96 Carver 400
Posted: July 11th, 2019, 3:46 pm
by km1125
Also, not sure what size that is, but you might try a 12 point metric that is just a bit smaller and tapping that on there.
I would not pry on the manifold, just pivot it at the bolt back and forth.
Re: 454XLi exhaust manifold replacement 96 Carver 400
Posted: July 12th, 2019, 10:30 am
by bud37
hausherrs wrote:Qr Bbpost Thats an idea... I thought of trying to rotate the manifold, just a little. Its pulling away at cyl #1. There is a 1/8 gap, maybe 1/16, you can put a flat tip screwdriver in between. Again this is cyl #5.
It is a 12pt but the all the "points" are rusted off or rounded. I also thinking about tapping a smaller socket on there and trying to get an impact on there. Or get an Irwin bolt extractor and put it on the impact.
Anyway, i have to get an arsenal together, plan A, B, C, and D......
A) Wiggle manifold
B) Tap on socket and try the impact, If not, try breaker bar
C) Irwin bot extractor
D) Air hammer the bolt out. If that dosent work just cut the head off..
If it were me I would get myself a complete new set of exhaust bolts before installing the new manifold assembly....no telling what abuse the current set has gone thru....
Re: 454XLi exhaust manifold replacement 96 Carver 400
Posted: July 12th, 2019, 11:20 am
by hausherrs
bud37 wrote:Qr Bbpost If it were me I would get myself a complete new set of exhaust bolts before installing the new manifold assembly....no telling what abuse the current set has gone thru....
I have all new parts for all 4 manifolds. Gaskets, block off plates, riser bolts, manifold bolts, and water fittings/hoses.
km1125 wrote:Qr Bbpost not sure what size that is, but you might try a 12 point metric
Its a 12pt 3/8in.. So whats smaller then that? 9mm?
Re: 454XLi exhaust manifold replacement 96 Carver 400
Posted: July 12th, 2019, 1:50 pm
by km1125
Yes, that would be it... unless you have a 9.25mm socket!
Another thing I've done is sacrifice an old feeler guage, cut it in strips and use it to fill in the 'gaps' in the socket while I tap it on. But I can't imagine trying to do that while upside down and backwards working on a manifold bolt!
Seems like such a small bolthead (and socket) to be putting any appreciable torque on it! I'll have to check my risers. They have 12 pt bolts but I've long forgotten what size they were.
Re: 454XLi exhaust manifold replacement 96 Carver 400
Posted: July 12th, 2019, 3:45 pm
by hausherrs
My riser had 6pt 9/16in bolts...
Speaking of risers' im still trying to get the one off this manifold with the stuck bolt. I cut the exhaust pipe (Metal reinforced Rubber hose) with my saws-all. That worked amazingly well... That thing is hungry! But the hose was rusted on and now thats clear and a non-issue. The studs on the riser are completely rusted on... I guess it didnt see me bring my air hammer with me. Things are about to get nasty!
Re: 454XLi exhaust manifold replacement 96 Carver 400
Posted: July 12th, 2019, 5:27 pm
by hausherrs
I know everyone likes pictures....
Progress....