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buster53 wrote:QR_BBPOST Original story said bouy 62 which is about 5 miles from the mouth of the Great Wicomico. Your map shows where the local police launched from….not police, the Smith Point Sea Rescue, volunteer organization.

Thanks for that clarification. I got the "local police" thing from one of the articles.

So, for others referencing the chart above... the Great Wicomico is that inlet near the point I labelled "where the local police launched from". The survivors were picked up about a mile on the east side of that white area straight east from where the rescue crews launched.

From a different article, I also read "The yacht was new to the group, according to SPSR, and they were in the process of taking it from Virginia Beach to NJ when the incident occurred. The vessel had recently had repairs done and got into trouble due to catastrophic transom failure."

The vessel had recently had repairs done and got into trouble due to catastrophic transom failure."

I saw that humungous swim platform and this was my first thought as to a cause. Any decent size waves would put some very serious forces on that thing. My guess is the swim platform took a beating and ripped a portion of the stern open. Correct me if I am wrong but that is not the original swim platform is it?

Midnightsun wrote:

The vessel had recently had repairs done and got into trouble due to catastrophic transom failure."

I saw that humungous swim platform and this was my first thought as to a cause. Any decent size waves would put some very serious forces on that thing. My guess is the swim platform took a beating and ripped a portion of the stern open. Correct me if I am wrong but that is not the original swim platform is it?

Yes, we would love to hear the rest of the story. True cause of the sinking and if it was swim platform related, how long ago was it added?

Also wonder how they make those hulls. Is the cockpit a "tack on" to another popular hull, or was there an entirely new hull made for that model? I recall seeing one boat (not this model, just an older Carver) where the props and rudder were well forward of the "stern", more aligning with what would have been the stern if you took off the cockpit.

km1125 wrote:Also wonder how they make those hulls. Is the cockpit a "tack on" to another popular hull, or was there an entirely new hull made for that model? I recall seeing one boat (not this model, just an older Carver) where the props and rudder were well forward of the "stern", more aligning with what would have been the stern if you took off the cockpit.

The Carver 500 is the 455/456 with the added cockpit. I’m only guessing it is an add on, not a new hull with the props well forward of the transom. Again, only guessing.

Midnightsun wrote:QR_BBPOST

The vessel had recently had repairs done and got into trouble due to catastrophic transom failure."

I saw that humungous swim platform and this was my first thought as to a cause. Any decent size waves would put some very serious forces on that thing. My guess is the swim platform took a beating and ripped a portion of the stern open. Correct me if I am wrong but that is not the original swim platform is it?

Have a closer look at your pic ....it appears it may be one of those lift type platforms only judging by the struts underneath, there is some considerable engineering going on there......the supports under and those add on type pieces on either hull side back corner.

IMO something like that would take loading not only down but up as well with a following sea and powering down.... It would add tremendous forces to the factory hull joint ( which is a number of feet away ). I have seen hulls extended to lengthen a hull, and they have required some good engineering to complete it properly.

Now that you mention it, yes it does look like a hydraulic swim platform. Regardless, its huge, almost like adding a patio to the rear of the boat. looks like it has been on there for some time as there is molding damage to the starboard rear corner.

Be nice to have some salvage contacts down in that area. Given it's not that deep, I'd bet they do haul it out of the water. Would be neat to see some "after" pics.

km1125 wrote:QR_BBPOST Be nice to have some salvage contacts down in that area. Given it's not that deep, I'd bet they do haul it out of the water. Would be neat to see some "after" pics.

I would like to see the survey report/comments prior to sale.....

The wings added to either side of the transom are the hydraulics for the platform. It was common set up for a lift at the time.