May Have Found Another Carver

[RGrew176]

Qr Bbpost Only 70? When was it repowered?

2019.

[RGrew176]

I had not heard anything from the broker concerning my offer so I emailed him the other day. I received the following reply"

So I have brought up the offer terms on the carver. The sellers are a little nervous about tying the boat up “sale pending” till spring launch. A lot things can happen in the 4 to 5 months waiting for a sea trial to finish the deal. If something were to happen and you decided to go another route, they would have lost those 4 to 5 months with another potential offer.

I understand your reasoning for wanting to do a sea trial because of the age of the boat. would you feel more comfortable offering a lower amount but closing earlier?



We can guarantee the winterization on the boat. The boat was in water this year and was used.



Let me know your thoughts.

I certainly can understand their position not wanting to tie up the boat. I did include a clause in my offer that if I backed out of the deal for any reason other than a failed survey or sea trial they could keep the deposit ($2000.00) However I do not intend to "buy" the boat without a survey and sea trial. If something were seriously wrong then I would own it. No way. If someone else wants to jump in there and do so, let them have it.

I did get some good information on previous maintenance done to the boat concerning the engines. Both engines were replaced with re-manufactured engines in July 2019. There is approximately 70 to 80 hours on the remans. At that time both bellows were replaced, impellers were replaced (Alpha One) drives and the drives serviced. The starboard gear shift cable was replaced. In 2017 the cockpit and interior seating were all redone and it shows. Boat looks great. But, I do not want to take a chance and purchase it outright without the survey/sea trial.

What are your thoughts. I will email the broker back stating that I will leave my offer on the table but will retain the right to pull the offer at any time should I find another boat that fits my needs.

[Midnightsun]

Sounds fine but you never know. Would be a shame if something serious were wrong and you were stuck to deal with it. Offering less in case something may be wrong is one heck of a gamble. Personally I would keep my offer, close the deal with down payment only and add they must pay for any out of the ordinary undisclosed/found issues after the survey/sea trial such as engine, transmission, moisture or structural issues as those IMHO are the only real costly issues that could arise. If the boat is in such great shape in todays market it will sell very quickly come spring. In the mean time it will be very difficult for them to sell the boat with no sea trial terms.

[Viper]

Don't do it Rick. Even closing with a holdback clause is chancey. A major structural or mechanical repair can easily end up costing more than the value of the boat and I doubt they'd accept a high percentage holdback for that. Having the boat available for sale over the winter is a tough sell anyway. Few venture out, they can't sea trial the vessel, you can't run a lot of systems, you can't do a proper survey, and shrink wrap doesn't make viewing easy. They may still get inquiries over the winter but I find most are usually tire kickers so I doubt they'll miss out on much anyway.

What's the acceptance deadline date?

[bud37]

My opinion.....if the boat was that exceptional it would have sold already in this market regardless of trials etc.

At this time of year, you will be confronted with this same thing over and over. Sales can be pending....but there can be right of first refusal.......but as I said, if it was that good a deal it would have sold.....the sellers can sell as is where is as well, pricing will be according, but I believe boats are sold " as is" anyway unless they are new or have an expressed warranty/guarantee........good luck Rick and remember there will be lots more on the market next year.

[RGrew176]

Qr Bbpost Don't do it Rick. Even closing with a holdback clause is chancey. A major structural or mechanical repair can easily end up costing more than the value of the boat and I doubt they'd accept a high percentage holdback for that. Having the boat available for sale over the winter is a tough sell anyway. Few venture out, they can't sea trial the vessel, you can't run a lot of systems, you can't do a proper survey, and shrink wrap doesn't make viewing easy. They may still get inquiries over the winter but I find most are usually tire kickers so I doubt they'll miss out on much anyway.

What's the acceptance deadline date?

There was no acceptance deadline in my offer.

[RGrew176]

Qr Bbpost Sounds fine but you never know. Would be a shame if something serious were wrong and you were stuck to deal with it. Offering less in case something may be wrong is one heck of a gamble. Personally I would keep my offer, close the deal with down payment only and add they must pay for any out of the ordinary undisclosed/found issues after the survey/sea trial such as engine, transmission, moisture or structural issues as those IMHO are the only real costly issues that could arise. If the boat is in such great shape in todays market it will sell very quickly come spring. In the mean time it will be very difficult for them to sell the boat with no sea trial terms.

My thoughts exactly. If I buy it I am stuck with whatever might be wrong. The boat is very clean and looks great. But without a survey and sea trial who knows what could be wrong. Moisture issues in the transom, it is an I/O boat so that is a possibility. As I said above I will leave my offer on the table with the right to rescind should I find another boat. To my eye it is a good looking clean boat. There is no way I would buy any used boat without a survey/sea trial. They, the sellers are looking to upsize to a bigger boat I would be willing to bet the farm they will also survey and sea trial any boat they end up buying.

[RGrew176]

Qr Bbpost My opinion.....if the boat was that exceptional it would have sold already in this market regardless of trials etc.

At this time of year, you will be confronted with this same thing over and over. Sales can be pending....but there can be right of first refusal.......but as I said, if it was that good a deal it would have sold.....the sellers can sell as is where is as well, pricing will be according, but I believe boats are sold " as is" anyway unless they are new or have an expressed warranty/guarantee........good luck Rick and remember there will be lots more on the market next year.

Bingo. That is most likely correct. I do like the boat a lot but am not going to jump into the unknown. Hopefully it will still be there come April and we can proceed at that time. My younger self would have probably jumped right in with a purchase but I am OLDER and wiser now, LOL.

[tomschauer]

Rick, it will most likely be there in the spring, unless someone with more dollars than sense buys it!

[RGrew176]

Rick, it will most likely be there in the spring, unless someone with more dollars than sense buys it!

That is my line of thinking too. If it is there great if not then it was not meant to be.