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leaking pressure relief valve

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Hello. I have a 1987 Carver 32. Behind the lower helm, is what I have identified as the pressure relief valve for steering. I see the 3 hoses coming out of the back of the valve. Where I see oil and a little bit of bubbling, is out of this cap on the side. The cap has a slot which would appear you can remove. What I need to know...is there a packing that can be replaced for this cap? If so, I need a part number for the packing. I have not attempted to tighten, as I am unsure if this for some type of adjustment cap as this is a valve. I am maintenance literate, but I want to know what I am up against before I rip and tear. I will attempt to load a photo of someone elses valve that I found. I didnt take a photo of mine.
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I do not believe that's a pressure relief valve. The only 'pressure relief' valve that I'm familiar with is on the steering cylinder at the rudders. I *think* that's just a cap that you're looking at, but I'd have to see a diagram to make sure. I think I have a graphic somewhere that shows that whole thing in an exploded diagram. I think they typically leak at the shaft seal, so make sure that's where the fluid is coming from.
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Hello. I found an IPC of this without part numbers. I found what I am describing, is the actual filter element which is inside the valve body. It is a cartridge that goes in the body. There is one on each side. It shows packings, without part numbers. Darn....
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Not sure which helm unit you have, but here's a couple diagrams. #9 in the second one are bleed screws. The rest are the valves.
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Here is the whole system. The relief valve is usually down by the reservoir or the cylinder.
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And now I'm sure what I have is a H-50. A seal kit would not include packing for the cartridge. If you look at item #8, you'll see the parts that go into the block. This is similar to an H-50, only an H-50 I believe has only one filter. So whatever those packings are (which they so inconveniently did not list) is what I need.
And thank you for posting those IPC's. I did find this awhile ago and printed it.
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Aren't those just O-rings that seal those parts?
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Spoke with seastar. Apparently the part I'm describing is part of the helm. There is no specific packing listed. Will have to go to napa and have a look. Otherwise will have to redo the system with new style...$$$, or by a refurbished unit.
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Not entirely sure until I pull it apart. But by looking at an H-50 for sale online, this part the hoses are attached to is built into the helm. (and I've been calling it the wrong name. It's a pressure relief screw and it a common leakage point. Now just have to find the correct packing part numbers.
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Try a place that does hydraulic cylinders/lines/pumps for machinery, loaders etc....that may just be a generic part, if you can show them.
FWIW.....The above is just my opinion.
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