Welcome to Carver Yachts Owners Forum

We are a boating forum for owners of Carver Yachts to enthusiastically discuss all aspects of Carver Boat ownership. Whether you are looking for your first Carver or currently own one, you are sure to feel at home on CarverYachtOwners.com

You are currently viewing our board as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to searching the forum topics, post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

Engine room bilge cleaning

Anything related to the operation of your boat. Steering, Bilge Pumps, thru-hulls, bottom paint, etc.
User avatar

Topic author Canada
Peter3607
Scurvy Dog
Scurvy Dog
Posts: 49
Joined: August 29th, 2019, 9:44 pm
Vessel Info: 1998 Carver 500 CMY
1989 Carver 3607 Aft Cabin
Location: Ontario
Has thanked: 29 times
Been thanked: 2 times

Engine room bilge cleaning

Postby Peter3607 » May 14th, 2020, 3:04 pm

Does anyone know a reliable Canadian company that can come and clean the engine room bilge (boat located on Western Lake Ontario)? I attempted to clean it myself but found it too difficult to crawl around let alone reach those tight areas that only a mini-me could reach. Hoping to clean up the mess the previous owner left behind.

User avatar

United States of America
km1125
Admiral
Admiral
Posts: 3500
Joined: February 28th, 2017, 6:04 pm
Has thanked: 69 times
Been thanked: 1043 times

Re: Engine room bilge cleaning

Postby km1125 » May 14th, 2020, 4:17 pm

Don't know about that area, so I can't give any suggestions there.

However, if/when you do get it cleaned by someone else, make sure you spend some time after they're finished looking around the compartment for anything that might have been broken or dislodged when they were in there. I had someone clean mine (also a 3607) many years ago and found several things that ended up broke (like the bilge pump float switch!).

Certainly does make it nicer to work in there after it's clean though!!
User avatar

Canada
Tireless
Commander
Commander
Posts: 460
Joined: October 16th, 2018, 4:51 pm
Vessel Info: 2006 Carver 44 CMY
Volvo Penta D6 370 HP
Location: Port Severn, Ontario
Has thanked: 183 times
Been thanked: 187 times

Re: Engine room bilge cleaning

Postby Tireless » May 14th, 2020, 4:31 pm

I have a hard time getting down there to clean the bilge as well ay 6'4" 265 Lbs.

What has been successful for me, I spray the bilge with a natural spray and let it sit. Then scrub where I can with a brush. I then bring the power washer in and you would be surprised how clean it will get.

Just need to be careful you don't break anything, but so far I have not had an issue. The bilge pumps will remove most water to a certain point, then I get in there with a shop vac with an extension on the end to remove the rest of the water and guck. Leave the floor open till the bilge dries out, doesn't take long.

Works great for me over the years and the bilge is very clean. Just need to stay on top of it. I also put absorbent towels under the engines to catch drippings etc. to help stay ahead of it.

Greg
User avatar

Topic author Canada
Peter3607
Scurvy Dog
Scurvy Dog
Posts: 49
Joined: August 29th, 2019, 9:44 pm
Vessel Info: 1998 Carver 500 CMY
1989 Carver 3607 Aft Cabin
Location: Ontario
Has thanked: 29 times
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: Engine room bilge cleaning

Postby Peter3607 » May 14th, 2020, 4:57 pm

Tireless wrote:Source of the post I have a hard time getting down there to clean the bilge as well ay 6'4" 265 Lbs.

What has been successful for me, I spray the bilge with a natural spray and let it sit. Then scrub where I can with a brush. I then bring the power washer in and you would be surprised how clean it will get.

Just need to be careful you don't break anything, but so far I have not had an issue. The bilge pumps will remove most water to a certain point, then I get in there with a shop vac with an extension on the end to remove the rest of the water and guck. Leave the floor open till the bilge dries out, doesn't take long.

Works great for me over the years and the bilge is very clean. Just need to stay on top of it. I also put absorbent towels under the engines to catch drippings etc. to help stay ahead of it.

Greg


My only concern to this would be pumping oily bilge water directly into the lake. Major fines if caught. I would have to disconnect the bilge pumps and use the shop vac to suck out all the water and dispose properly. Still a tight engine compartment to move around though.
User avatar

Canada
Tireless
Commander
Commander
Posts: 460
Joined: October 16th, 2018, 4:51 pm
Vessel Info: 2006 Carver 44 CMY
Volvo Penta D6 370 HP
Location: Port Severn, Ontario
Has thanked: 183 times
Been thanked: 187 times

Re: Engine room bilge cleaning

Postby Tireless » May 14th, 2020, 6:10 pm

Peter3607 wrote:Source of the post My only concern to this would be pumping oily bilge water directly into the lake. Major fines if caught. I would have to disconnect the bilge pumps and use the shop vac to suck out all the water and dispose properly. Still a tight engine compartment to move around though.


I can see where you are coming from, for sure. Oil is an issue, if thats what is in your bilge then probably using a shop vac is the way to go. Thats why I use the matts under the engine to grab the oil and drippings.

Under the circumstances maybe hiring someone is the best thing to do, for sure. I am not aware of anyone that does this in Ontario, but I am sure they are out there.

Greg
User avatar

Canada
Midnightsun
CYO Supporter
CYO Supporter
Posts: 2924
Joined: March 27th, 2016, 2:27 pm
Vessel Info: The Midnight Sun
2007 41CMY
Volvo D6-370's
Location: Montreal, Canada
Has thanked: 268 times
Been thanked: 1153 times

Re: Engine room bilge cleaning

Postby Midnightsun » May 14th, 2020, 7:47 pm

I always clean mine on the hard after haul out for the season. With the plug removed for drainage I spray a bunch of Mean Green or whatever degreaser I have on hand, brush a little if required and spray it down with a hose. I normally keep the hose in there for quite some time to let it rinse out real good. The marina never says anything or requires us to recoup the water which runs into the gravel which is common practice by all. Not that there are any large quantities of oil in there only maybe a hue on the water. I assume in the coming years they may change this as I am sure there are some that dump rather nasty bilge water into the ground.
Cheers, Hans
2007 Carver 41 CMY
Twin Volvo D6-370's
Montreal, Canada
Midnight Sun I Photos

United States of America
tomschauer
CYO Supporter
CYO Supporter
Posts: 2307
Joined: March 28th, 2016, 10:52 pm
Vessel Info: 1998 Carver 355
Suspicious Fishes !
2022 Kawasaki 310X
Location: upper chesapeake bay
Has thanked: 324 times
Been thanked: 595 times

Re: Engine room bilge cleaning

Postby tomschauer » May 14th, 2020, 8:18 pm

I do the same as Hans. Also during the season I flush/rinse my bilge areas at least twice. No oil to discharge, just dust, dirt and some pink stuff that i may have splashed when winterizing.
User avatar

Canada
bud37
Admiral
Admiral
Posts: 4865
Joined: April 23rd, 2015, 10:22 pm
Has thanked: 579 times
Been thanked: 1210 times

Re: Engine room bilge cleaning

Postby bud37 » May 14th, 2020, 9:16 pm

Peter3607 wrote:Source of the post My only concern to this would be pumping oily bilge water directly into the lake. Major fines if caught. I would have to disconnect the bilge pumps and use the shop vac to suck out all the water and dispose properly. Still a tight engine compartment to move around though.



Good point nowadays....you put a sheen on the water, that can be grounds for a fine or clean up order. There is an outfit that cleans boats in Ontario, I think they do fire clean ups etc as well....can't remember the name right now, I will post the name if I remember it....maybe someone else can post if they know.

In any case, clean with hot water and the full strength green stuff...towels and broom handles to push the towels around then vac up. I agree about having people climbing around stepping on who knows what....something to avoid there. You don't need tremendous amounts of water, not nearly enough to trigger the bilge pumps if you start with a dry bilge and do bits at a time.
The above is strictly my opinion.

Canada
Viper
CYO Supporter
CYO Supporter
Posts: 5975
Joined: July 10th, 2015, 9:58 pm
Vessel Info: 1989 Carver 3807 Aft Cabin
Location: Ontario, Canada
Has thanked: 455 times
Been thanked: 1671 times

Re: Engine room bilge cleaning

Postby Viper » May 15th, 2020, 10:10 am

Nobody's going to do as good a job as you, not for a reasonable price anyway IMO. I've been on boats right after they've been professionally cleaned and I wouldn't be happy with the results of most. They make their money by doing as many as possible which means speed is of the essence, that means shortcuts. I guess time is money so if you physically can't do it yourself or don't have the time....

The first project on every boat I've bought was to scrub the bilge. Some were worse than others but all had oil, dried out grease, and caked up whatever. My method for cleaning up such caked up messes and get a sparkling result is to go to the dollar store, buy some scrubbing pads, dish washing gloves, and a few different sizes of brushes with different length handles to reach hard to get areas. The product I use to clean with is just a hand cleaner with pumice like orange scented Gojo. The pumice does an amazing job of cutting through thick grime, grease, etc. Scrub with the brushes/pads and rinse the area, vacuum up then move on to the next section. The boat will smell like oranges for a week! If the bilge isn't too bad, a good product in a spray will do.

After this first time scrub, if you keep on top of it every year or two, it'll be easy to keep clean. Put oil absorbing pads under the engines and transmissions and replace annually after oil changes.

While in the bilge, it offers the best opportunity to inspect and familiarize yourself with your hardware and systems. While you're looking, keep an eye out for mold, you don't want to expose yourself or your family to this stuff. It's not COVID but it's not very friendly either and can result in serious health issues. If you see any, usually black, it's something you need to get rid of but need to take precautions and wear proper protective equipment if doing it yourself.

After cleaning, bilge fluids containing ANY petroleum products need to be disposed of properly. This shouldn't be taken lightly if we're to consider the legacy we're leaving for future generations. Some marinas will have a way to dispose of contaminated liquids. For oil contaminated water, really all it takes is dumping the water into a large clear or semi-clear container and letting it sit for a few days. After the oils separate and float to the top, a valve at the bottom of the tank can be used to drain off the water. The oil can then be dumped into the used oil drums most marinas will have for recycling collection. Most marinas have this type or similar setup, if they don't, recommend it, it's easy to put one together.

Return to “General Repairs & Maintenance”



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 123 guests